AngelaM
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Thank you Kathy
And very specifically to Doc T-thanks for the info on flabby cheeks-really appreciate that and of course SBM-my horses are so much happier. All of the brain stuff he talked about the other day works much better with the right fuel. I am very optimistic to take this information forward in the care of my horses!
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We’re deep into a biochemical soup here…for simplicity this is how I am thinking of it…short chain fatty acids are very good for the gut and are appearing to be neuroprotective to the brain but maybe the brain just doesn’t like to burn them due to the neurons’ inability to survive the byproducts. So perhaps the benefit of the SCFAs to the brain in cognition is less as a fuel and more in the aspect of improving tight junctions and possibly blocking amyloid.
And our gut microbes make them for us out of soluble fibre and resistant starch-a lovely parallel to the cellulose story in the horse’s hindgut. And yes, butter on popcorn…
Thank you for this conversation.
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I understand that a healthy human microbiome can metabolize soluble fibre and resistant starch to short chain fatty acids as well. This I found fascinating.
I looked up why the brain only uses glucose as fuel and it seems that burning fatty acids (presumably via ketones) produces too many reactive oxygen species and neurons are not adept at dealing with them due to poor antioxidant apparatus within the neurons and it causes them to die. Have you read this?
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I’ll look into it as well and see what I can find about what we know from first principles. It’s been a while (read decades) since I looked at this stuff so a refresher would be a good idea. I know on some of the podcasts you have said that burning glucose is a “dirty” process but that it’s the preferred fuel of the brain so those two things seem to conflict-why would we evolve to burn glucose in our brains if it is detrimental? Enquiring minds want to know…
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Thank you!!
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Our next trim is in a couple of weeks-will let you know.
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Specifically I am asking about using something that is supposed to kill the fly (which takes time through paralysis of breathing) as a repellent. It doesn’t make sense to me since the purpose of a repellent is to make the fly not land in the first place.
Most fly sprays we have seem to try to kill the fly (albeit a delayed effect), but it still can drive your horse nuts by biting him. Maybe they die later but I wonder if anyone has looked at how effective they are (how much of a dose do they need, do they live long enough to make eggs etc?) Just seems like a backward approach. And a bit like grain ingredients-not the right tool for the job.
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Hey Doc T
could you please weigh in on this? Thanks. Angela
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As luck would have it I had to use the info in the podcast this morning before work-thanks Doc T!
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So we’ve been doing ground poles in various configurations. Sometimes using snow banks as risers for my mustang cross. Hills, backing up etc. I was carefully making sure the ground poles were flat (not on snow banks) for the standie due to the OCD in the hocks. Well, the other day they started goofing around as geldings do. The standie was demonstrating how he has perfected rearing, bucking and galloping without tipping over (still doesn’t look what I would call magical) and at one point he cleared a 4 foot snow bank with zero faults-almost from a stand still and on an angle. So he is definitely feeling good. Or at least he was until that point (I do think he strained something in his pelvis but good Lord, how could he not?).
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We’re a couple of months in now and never going back-I will always feed SBM, or if I win the lottery, perhaps hemp meal. I did not feed grain before but I think 50% of this is getting rid of the crap in grain that actively works against people and their horses and 50% is supplying the protein they need with the SBM. I tell everyone who will listen about it but humanity is generally slow to change.
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Are you familiar with the polyvagal theory? It’s interesting and a working knowledge of it can be helpful with working with our horses (an for ourselves too). I wish you well on your quest to help Praline-sounds like a tough case.
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My farrier says his horse is allergic to soy. Can you try the hemp meal, is it available to you?
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Thank you Dinah-I think I am on the right track then-I use the dirt bike jumps that my husband made for little hills. And we hand walk over different surfaces-I should add the ground poles though. It will be 5 months with the diet before I try riding again (just based on winter here) so I am very interested to see how that goes-of course gradually building fitness.
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Welcome Dinah! I wish you well on your journey with Praline. We are travelling a similar path here in Canada! I would be interested in your perspective as a bodyworker on the changes you see after a few months of this way of feeding. I have our chiropractor/cranial sacral therapist booked for later this month. Although I’m not riding at the moment, I suspect there will be some structural things to keep up with as the body changes with them finally getting enough protein.
I would also be very interested in looking at what sort of exercises we can do with our horses to help them build muscle in the best way-to that end I’ve ordered Jec Ballou’s book 55 Corrective Exercises (Doc T was on her podcast).
Looking forward to your progress notes.
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The reason I ask is my husband was going to the farm store and I asked him to pick up a couple of bags and now I have 160 lb of the 44% with hulls in the shed. It’s a potential ooops situation.😂.
And I think my friend in the UK has entirely the wrong thing as well (but worse as it still has the oil in it).
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Well I don’t know but we are quite a large country so it’s a bit of a perplexing comparison. I would say it depends where it came from in Canada, soil, harvest time, weather, is it newly seeded or in need of reworking the field, how it was processed etc so there would be a lot of variables. There is a supplement company here in Canada called Mad Barn and they have regional hay test data if you don’t want to test your hay (which I have not done). Not sure if it’s a paid service but they’re very good to answer an email and may be able to direct you in the right direction if they don’t have the info you are looking for.
Or you could get half Kentucky and half Canadian and see which suits you and your horse better.
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It’s explained pretty well in “Accessing the healing power of the vagus nerve” by Stanley Rosenberg. It’s only human, not equine but horses have the same cranial nerves as people. Warwick Schiller talks about it a lot on his podcasts with respect to humans and horses.
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Well that was quick-I let her know and she ordered it right away-thanks again.
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Thank you Jenny!! I will let her know.